(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[gb2312]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
PW[goduke]PB[JumboEgg]WR[6d]DT[2006-09-30]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[goduke [6d\]: hi
JumboEgg [?\]: hey
JumboEgg [?\]: enjoy the game
goduke [6d\]: u 2
]RE[W+Resign]
;B[pd]BL[3542.848]
;W[qp]WL[3586.84]
;B[cd]BL[3501.48]C[happyloser [2d?\]: hi all! This is angryfist vs mulan right?
]
;W[cp]WL[3516.16]
;B[oq]BL[3495.28]
;W[lp]WL[3482.294]C[windy [-\]: hi happyloser
]
;B[ql]BL[3455.946]C[windy [-\]: you played xi11west in the first round, was he strong?
decamp [5d\]: hehe, few ppl strong b4 happyloser :-)
happyloser [2d?\]: Everybody is strong ah
]
;W[op]WL[3421.704]C[happyloser [2d?\]: yes you need to be careful
decamp [5d\]: the stronger, the more modest :-)
]
;B[qi]BL[3436.153]C[windy [-\]: oh really
happyloser [2d?\]: play as if you don't know how strong he is, that's my answer
sasker [5d\]: very true
windy [-\]: oh
]
;W[ed]WL[3367.336]C[windy [-\]: well, i don't want to lost early
windy [-\]: lose
]
;B[hd]BL[3410.735]C[windy [-\]: sigh
happyloser [2d?\]: I like black right now
]
;W[df]WL[3314.976]
;B[ee]BL[3398.101]C[happyloser [2d?\]: see white didn't choose D13, instead he chose D14, to avoid trouble bottom right.
happyloser [2d?\]: BTW, I'm now actively playing the role of teacher han 
]
;W[de]WL[3256.521]
;B[dd]BL[3396.245]
;W[fd]WL[3250.904]C[happyloser [2d?\]: but white gain sente 
windy [-\]: interesting joseki
]
;B[ef]BL[3379.702]C[happyloser [2d?\]: oh ! wow!
windy [-\]: ChangHao played this joseki twice in the China TianYuan 
decamp [5d\]: guess w is a bit out of pace
windy [-\]: and he lost because of this joseki
decamp [5d\]: he needs a move at right lower
decamp [5d\]: i feel b  has a more light mind in this game
]
;W[be]WL[3172.931]C[windy [-\]: O3 or Q3?
inu22 [23k?\]: i say o
windy [-\]: for b
windy [-\]: for w i mean
inu22 [23k?\]: i'd try to drive him to the corner
decamp [5d\]: teacher han, pls make ur comment
happyloser [2d?\]: Q3 I'll choos
inu22 [23k?\]: for white>
windy [-\]: O3 bad aji
]
;B[dg]BL[3280.523]C[inu22 [23k?\]: its bad?
happyloser [2d?\]: O3 needs some confidence to control what's going on
happyloser [2d?\]: I'm not that strong enough
windy [-\]: very true
happyloser [2d?\]: I always choose what i can understand and control(try to)
windy [-\]: O3 needs reading and guts
inu22 [23k?\]: ah
inu22 [23k?\]: well being pretty new, i've got the guts down, but reading has quite emerged well in me yet
]
;W[bd]WL[3085.305]C[daheigou [?\]: why choose so complex joseki
]
;B[ce]BL[3269.477]
;W[cf]WL[3079.669]
;B[bf]BL[3268.089]
;W[cg]WL[3078.065]
;B[bg]BL[3266.493]
;W[ch]WL[3077.022]
;B[bc]BL[3264.752]C[windy [-\]: D13 is weird
windy [-\]: not joseki
happyloser [2d?\]: D 13 common bah
inu22 [23k?\]: common what?
windy [-\]: b should C16 first
windy [-\]: b should B16 first *
happyloser [2d?\]: now black get something first, and test if white get the right moves
windy [-\]: but right now b isn't bad
decamp [5d\]: i prefer b now
]
;W[he]WL[2943.413]C[decamp [5d\]: w has two places needing moves
happyloser [2d?\]: in the following moves, white needs the strongest ones every move, like what he did just now
]
;B[bh]BL[3249.087]C[happyloser [2d?\]: I mean H15
]
;W[ci]WL[2935.742]C[inu22 [23k?\]: i hink black will keep the to corners and sides, but white will control center and bottom
happyloser [2d?\]: black is too greedy
happyloser [2d?\]: B12 may give himself a hard time later in the middle fight
decamp [5d\]: he fears w b12
decamp [5d\]: it is sente
]
;B[ie]BL[3161.454]C[windy [-\]: why make game complicated 
happyloser [2d?\]: yes but it strengthen white's outside
decamp [5d\]: yes
happyloser [2d?\]: I dare not do that
decamp [5d\]: hehe
decamp [5d\]: but think about w b12
decamp [5d\]: too much influence on left
happyloser [2d?\]: see if black give up the 3, white not bad at all
decamp [5d\]: agree
password [1k\]: maybe black is wrong from the very beginning of the joseki
decamp [5d\]: game pretty even
happyloser [2d?\]: because in the upleft corner, black's aji is not so finished
decamp [5d\]: i don't know the joseki
]
;W[hf]WL[2832.621]
;B[gd]BL[3157.016]
;W[fe]WL[2827.605]C[decamp [5d\]: but if i play
]
;B[if]BL[3151.896]C[decamp [5d\]: i would put e14 to g15
decamp [5d\]: i only know that variation
]
;W[id]WL[2798.963]C[decamp [5d\]: b gonna build top
]
;B[jd]BL[3146.822]
;W[ic]WL[2797.365]
;B[hg]BL[3145.369]C[happyloser [2d?\]: white doesn't want spend a move to kill the 3 even
decamp [5d\]: guess J16 helps b
decamp [5d\]: coz b got h13 hane
]
;W[gc]WL[2768.491]C[decamp [5d\]: too large
]
;B[jc]BL[3135.986]
;W[ib]WL[2765.958]C[decamp [5d\]: w failed in this fight
decamp [5d\]: j13
]
;B[ff]BL[3121.015]C[decamp [5d\]: b very strong influence
]
;W[gg]WL[2762.484]C[decamp [5d\]: f14?
]
;B[gh]BL[3110.953]C[inu22 [23k?\]: he can't close the hane before white takes the two up top
decamp [5d\]: good
windy [-\]: b play strong moves now
windy [-\]: very 绱у